Paladin Forum 3/16/2005


Special thanks to GMs Mestys and Kitrina.



Note: Transcript was edited to improve clarity.


Kitrina exclaims, "Evening everyone!"
Mestys says, "Good evening... thank you all for dropping by."
Kitrina says, "GM Mestys and I welcome you all to the first ever Paladin Forum."
Kitrina says, "We'll give everyone a minute or two to show up."
Kitrina exclaims, "Okay!"
Kitrina says, "Let's get started."
Mestys nods.
Mestys says, "I'm going to quiet the room for a bit while I go over the main parts of conversions."
Mestys calls the assembly to order. After a moment the crowd quiets down.
Mestys says, "Now then... our first topic is conversions. These will be available starting this Friday to all Clerics and Warriors that were created on or before November 20th, 2004."
Mestys says, "I'll just go over the announcement real quick for those who have not read it."
Mestys recites:

"If you choose to convert, enter the Character Manager and select option 20. After confirming your selection, you will proceed to the screen where you are prompted to set your stats."

Mestys recites:
"This is the only time you can set your stats. If you have any questions or concerns about stats, join the discussion in the Paladin folder on the GemStone IV Forums or roll up a Paladin to play and test first. There are no stat reallocations after this step."

Mestys recites:
"After setting up the character stats, you can either set up your skills in the text-based Character Manager or exit the Character Manager and set your skills by typing GOALS in the command prompt."

Mestys recites:
"Upon conversion, all guild affiliations and skills as well as any previously learned combat maneuver skills will be lost. Society and deity selections, however, will be retained."

Mestys recites:
"For 30 days following the conversion, all skills will migrate at an accelerated rate, so feel free to play around with skills during that time to become comfortable with how you'd like to train your character. After the 30 days, your character will migrate skills at the normal rate. Each time you log in, you will receive a notice with how many days are remaining at your accelerated skill migration rate."

Mestys says, "All right. I'm going to open up the floor for questions regarding conversions. Use the ASK command to send them my way."
Mestys takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.
Mestys says, "After these, we will move on to the new spells."

Mestys says, "Hellin says, 'if we have a celric or warrior to become a paladin, how do the skill costs go? i mean like normally, we can only take a rank or two per level and then the cost for the skill goes double. will that be waived during retraining?'"
Mestys says, "When converting your character, you will set your stats, then train up from 0 skill, using the skill costs of a Paladin."
Mestys nods to Hellin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you wished to have clarified?"
Hellin innocently says, "Um yes."
Mestys nods.
Hellin innocently asks, "We will still have all of our levels, but take the training one at a time, without having to get more exp?"
Mestys says, "You will have the same amount of experience, yes."
Hellin innocently says, "Ok thanks."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Hellin sits back down.

Mestys says, "Vohlin says, 'Do you feel that paladins are in need of some crowd control spell? I can elaborate my own feelings if needed.'"
Mestys says, "Please try to keep these on the topic of conversions only, but I'll address this briefly."
Mestys says, "With Aura of the Arkati and the new 1630, I do not believe it will be much of a problem. If you have further concerns, please bring them up during the next portion."

Mestys says, "Avery says, 'is there a time limit to decide if we want to convert or not?'"
Mestys says, "If you meet the criteria for conversions (Warrior/Cleric, created on or before November 20th of last year), then you can convert at any time."
Speaking to Avery, Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you wished clarified?"
Mestys nods to Avery, who stands up to address the assembly.
Avery asks, "So i can wait a year and then convert if i like right?"
Mestys nods to Avery.
Avery says, "That's it."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Avery sits back down.

Mestys says, "Alarke says, 'will there be an auto stat option available, or will we be forced to plan for our own stats?'"
Mestys says, "When converting, your stats will be set to the auto stats. From that point you can tweak them how you want them before training up your skills. Keep in mind that this is the only time you will be able to set your stats."
Speaking to Alarke, Mestys asks, "Do you have anything else to add?"
Mestys nods to Alarke, who stands up to address the assembly.
Alarke says, "That's all."
Mestys nods.
Alarke says, "Thank you."
Having finished addressing the assembly Alarke sits back down.

Mestys says, "Elvenwlf says, 'mesty if conversion will force fighters to lose the bonding they have with their weapon'"
Mestys says, "Yes, any and all Weapon Bondings will be broken."
Mestys nods to Elvenwlf, who stands up to address the assembly.
Elvenwlf says, "That is all I wished to know, thank you."
Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you'd like clarified on the issue?"
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Elvenwlf sits back down.

Mestys says, "Hakonne says, 'will paladins be able to convert to warriors?'"
Mestys says, "No. This conversion is a one-way thing, for Warriors and Clerics to convert to Paladins only."
Mestys nods to Hakonne, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you'd like clarified?"
Hakonne says, "No need for clarification, thank ye."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Hakonne sits back down.

Mestys says, "Solvarian says, 'at what time on friday will the conversion begin?'"
Mestys says, "Most likely in the evening, after I get home from work."
Mestys grins.
Mestys nods to Solvarian, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mestys asks, "Anything you wish to add?"
Mestys says, "Ok."
Having finished addressing the assembly Solvarian sits back down.

Mestys says, "Joter says, 'You mentioned that during conversion society and deity will be kept. Will an extra reset for each of these be granted?'"
Mestys says, "No such resets will be granted."
Mestys nods to Joter, who stands up to address the assembly.
Speaking to Joter, Mestys asks, "Do you have anything else you'd like clarified?"
Joter mockingly says, "No need for further clarification. Thank you very much for answering that, Mestys."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Joter sits back down.

Mestys says, "Kainok says, 'Mestys their is no race change?'"
Mestys says, "Race will not be reset upon conversion."
Mestys nods to Kainok, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kainok says, "Thanks."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Kainok sits back down.

Mestys says, "Zeyrin says, 'Should we decide that a paladin is not for us, will we be offered the chance to convert to a monk when the time comes?'"
Mestys says, "I am not sure that the details for Monk conversions have been finalized at this time, so I most likely can't answer the question in a capacity that would satisfy you."
Mestys grins.
Mestys nods to Zeyrin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Speaking to Zeyrin, Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you'd like to add?"
Zeyrin asks, "I see. I have more questions but I shall wait until the spell portion of your show. One more thing, where's the ale cart?"
Mestys grins.
Kitrina says, "I drank it all."
Having finished addressing the assembly Zeyrin sits back down.

Mestys closes the question box.
Mestys says, "I think that'll cover the relevant questions."
Mestys says, "If I didn't get to yours, I thought it wasn't pertinent to the discussion, or was already answered."
Kitrina exclaims, "Alright, let's get to the spells!"
Mestys nods to Kitrina.

Kitrina says, "1635."
Kitrina says, "Divine Intervention."
Kitrina says, "There is no documentation update for this spell at this time."
Kitrina says, "You can find the spell info at http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1635."

Kitrina says, "1630."
Kitrina says, "The name is going to be a surprise."
Kitrina says, "It is a CS-based mass attack spell."
Kitrina says, "It has fantastic deity specific messaging."
Kitrina says, "And like Bane/Smite, it has that whole Lornon/Liabo thing going for it."
Kitrina says, "I think you'll all really enjoy it."

Kitrina says, "1625."
Mestys wrings his hands.
Kitrina says, "Sanctify."
Kitrina says, "I have a lot of info for you."
Kitrina says, "Sanctify allows a Paladin to call upon their patron to bond them to their favored weapon. To bond, the Paladin must seek out a holy shrine, purify their weapon of impurities (through spell 1604, if it is not already holy), and then cast Sanctify upon their chosen weapon. Once bonded, the weapon will become sanctified in the hands of the Paladin it is bonded to. This bond is so strong that the weapon will resist use by anyone other than the Paladin who is bonded to it. The bond can then be further strengthened through use in combat."
Kitrina says, "There are five bonding levels that the bonded weapon can reach, beyond its starting level (rank 0). At Rank 1, if the weapon has no other special abilities (flares, weighting, etc.) it will gain permanent Guiding Light flares. At Rank 3, the Paladin can begin to infuse offensive spells into the weapon that can then flare during combat. At Rank 5, the weapon will gain the ability to return to the Paladin's hand, should it be disarmed or hurled."
Kitrina says, "At each rank, the Paladin will receive a +2 bonus to their CML attack/defensive strength when using the bonded weapon. The Paladin will also be able to draw strength and clarity of thought from their patron merely by holding the bonded weapon in their hand (+1 to Strength and Wisdom Bonus per rank)."
Kitrina says, "In order to achieve and maintain each rank, the Paladin must have sufficient spell training in the Paladin spell list. In order to reach bonded rank 1 (or, indeed, maintain the bond at all), the Paladin must have 25 ranks in the Paladin spells. Rank 2 requires 26 ranks, Rank 3 requires 27 ranks, Rank 4 requires 28 ranks, and Rank 5 requires 29 ranks."
Kitrina says, "If a Paladin achieves a certain bonded rank and then unlearns the prerequisite spell rank, their bond with their weapon will either weaken to the appropriate level or dissolve altogether if the spell is completely unlearned."
Kitrina says, "To infuse a spell into the weapon, the Paladin will need to either PREPARE or INVOKE a spell and then attempt to INFUSE it into their weapon. Only targeted, non-bolt/ball offensive spells may be infused into the weapon (no mass spells). The maximum effective spell level that can be infused into the weapon is the weapon's bonded rank -2, multiplied by 4 [(Bonded Rank - 2) * 4]. Training in Spiritual Lore: Summoning can raise this maximum level (Seed 2)."
Kitrina says, "Spells that the Paladin can learn (Minor Spiritual and Paladin circles) are treated as having an effective level equal to their base level (i.e. 1602 = level 2). Spells that are fully spiritual in nature that are non-native to the Paladin are treated as having an effective level equal to 1.25x their base level (i.e. 214 = level 17), spells that are semi-spiritual are treated as 1.5x their base level (i.e. 708 = level 12), and spells that are non-spiritual are treated as 2x their base level (i.e. 512 = level 24)."
Kitrina says, "Once infused, the spell will be stored in the weapon until it is randomly activated during combat. The act of infusing merely grants knowledge of the spell to the weapon, it does not draw mana from the Paladin. Upon activation in combat, the weapon will transfer knowledge of the spell back to the Paladin and compel them to cast it at the most recently engaged creature in the room. The Paladin will expend the normal mana cost of the spell at this time, but will never fall below zero mana as an immediate result. Once the spell flare is activated, the weapon will need to be infused with a spell before it will flare again."
Kitrina says, "Should the Paladin decide to bond to another weapon, they may CHANNEL Sanctify at their bonded weapon to break their current bond and then repeat the bonding ritual with another weapon. The CHANNEL step is optional, but failure to sever the old link will render the formerly bonded weapon unusable by anyone, should it never touch its former master's hands again."
Kitrina says, "And that's Sanctify."
Kitrina smiles.

Kitrina says, "We'll now open the floor to all Paladin questions and concerns."
Mestys takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Mestys says, "Kreek says, 'will 1630 have a TD-pushdown like 1613?'"
Mestys says, "1630 will have no TD pushdown. It will be more like 1615 in that regard."
Mestys nods to Kreek, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kreek says, "Gotcha."
Having finished addressing the assembly Kreek sits back down.

Mestys says, "Hesha says, 'are paladins expected to 1x in spells or will paladin CS/TD be decient with a lower ammount of training in spells (.5x, .75x, etc)?'"
Mestys says, "Paladins are expected to be .75x trained in spells from a design point of view."
Mestys nods to Hesha, who stands up to address the assembly.
Hesha says, "Thank you."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Hesha sits back down.

Mestys says, "Mordja says, 'If we have a weapon considered sanctified in the hands of a cleric, can we cast this new sanctify spell on the existing weapon to gain the bonding benefits?'"
Mestys says, "Yes, but the weapon will be attuned to the Paladin caster."
Mestys nods to Mordja, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mordja says, "Excellent. Thank you."
Having finished addressing the assembly Mordja sits back down.

Mestys says, "Belnia says, 'Will the Rank 5 effects of Sanctify only have a percentage chance to occur, or are they garunteed?'"
Mestys says, "I'm pretty sure it is guaranteed, but there is a delay between it falling and returning."
Mestys nods to Belnia, who stands up to address the assembly.
Belnia asks, "Will this specifically be usable on claidhmores, katanas, naginatas or any other naturally crit weighted weapons?"
Mestys says, "No."
Mestys says, "Oh, wait."
Mestys says, "I misread that."
Mestys exclaims, "Yes!"
Mestys grins.
Belnia says, "I'm going to go make a paladin now."
Mestys turns towards Belnia and renders a sharp hand salute.
Having finished addressing the assembly Belnia sits back down.

Mestys says, "Vohlin says, 'In the paladin's selection of spells I see a few deficiecies. We have no means of taking a creature or creatures completely out of a fight. Both of the other semis (bards and rangers) possess this capability. Do you feel that this is a major problem for the class?'"
Mestys says, "Paladins rely more on their physical strength than the other two semi classes. I do not believe there is a debilitating deficiency, no."
Mestys nods to Vohlin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Vohlin says, "I do."
Mestys asks, "Do you have anything else you'd like to add?"
Mestys nods.
Vohlin says, "We have no means of taking a group of creatures out of a fight."
Vohlin says, "E-wave, mass calm are great for such uses."
Mestys says, "Paladins can also take more of the brunt with better armor."
Vohlin says, "I suppose."
Vohlin says, "I just need a few more levels under my belt I guess."
Mestys says, "However, this is more of a matter of opinion. We're going to try and keep things more to the facts tonight."
Mestys smiles.
Mestys nods.
Vohlin says, "That is all that I had."
Having finished addressing the assembly Vohlin sits back down.
Mestys nods.

Mestys says, "Sidiarra says, 'Will Sanctify work on player enchanted weapons?'"
Mestys says, "Yes."
Mestys nods to Sidiarra, who stands up to address the assembly.
Sidiarra says, "I have nothing else to ask, thank you."
Having finished addressing the assembly Sidiarra sits back down.
Mestys nods.

Mestys says, "Hm... the question box is a bit on the fritz, so I'm going to close it for now."
Mestys closes the question box.
Kitrina says, "We didn't give it enough ale, apparently."

Mestys says, "Menos says, 'Does the paladin suffer normal armor hinderance for spells cast from the bonded weapon?'"
Mestys says, "No."
Mestys nods to Menos, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mestys asks, "Anything further?"
Mestys smiles.
Speaking in Elven, Menos asks, "I just wanted to know if Kitrina be performing a cheer for us at some point tonight?"
Mestys cocks his head at Kitrina.
Mestys looks thoughtful for a moment, then shrugs.
Mestys grins.
Kitrina says, "It's possible."
Mestys exclaims, "Moving on!"
Kitrina nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Menos sits back down.

Mestys says, "Spendel says, 'will 1630 be player friendly? 1625 We can bond to multiple weapons? at the same time? and work them up the level scales concerently? Just the first weapon can only be used by the origonal paladin?'"
Mestys says, "I'm not sure about the 1630 issue at this time."
Kitrina says, "I'll find out and post it."
Kitrina nods.
Mestys says, "Regarding 1625 -- no, you may only bond to one weapon at a time."
Mestys nods to Spendel, who stands up to address the assembly.
Spendel says, "So after I bond to one fully."
Spendel says, "I can bond with a second one."
Spendel asks, "Just the first will be able to be used by me?"
Mestys says, "Doing so will break the first bond."
Mestys nods.
Mestys says, "That is why it is important to CHANNEL the spell at old bonded weapons."
Spendel asks, "And this bond can be done no matter what properties the weapon has?"
Spendel says, "Yes, but I would like to bond to a lot of things..."
Mestys says, "The possible characteristics are fairly unbounded."
Mestys says, "I realize that bonding is rather desireable, but it is limited to only one weapon at a time."
Spendel says, "So say I bond with one weapon, I get it to rank 5...."
Spendel asks, "At that point can I bond with another weapon and still have the origonal bond?"
Mestys says, "I'm not entirely sure, but I believe the original weapon will still be attuned to you with no bonding benefits."
Spendel says, "Thank you, that is what I wanted to know."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Spendel sits back down.

Mestys says, "Ok, if I didn't get to your question, please ask it again."
Mestys takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Mestys says, "Kyntair says, 'Will there be any enchant restriction upon the weapon we can sanctify?'"
Mestys says, "No."
Mestys nods to Kyntair, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kyntair warmly says, "Ok, so..."
Kyntair warmly says, "If we bond with say a weapon..."
Kyntair warmly asks, "Will it be able to be enchanted higher after that?"
Mestys says, "I'm not sure on the specifics of that."
Kyntair warmly asks, "And will the original properties of said bonded weapon remain the same? i.e. crit weighting and what not?"
Mestys nods to Kyntair.
Kyntair warmly says, "Ok, that is all I think...just hope it can be enchanted afterwards."
Kyntair warmly says, "Thanks ."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Kyntair sits back down.

Mestys says, "Limper says, 'when will 1625 and 1630 be released? Are there any plans to improve existing spells such as 1613, 1619, 1620, and 1640 to actually help the paladin? I ask because it seems that these spells are rather high in the sphere and do minimal benefit when compared to other high-level spells in other spheres.'"
Kitrina says, "We don't have release dates for 1625 and 1635."
Kitrina says, "Except that they'll be in March."
Mestys says, "As for the other spells, they are still new and will continue to be reviewed. However they are pretty finalized at this point."
Mestys nods to Limper, who stands up to address the assembly.
Limper clearly asks, "March of this year?"
Mestys says, "Yes."
Limper clearly says, "Just making sure..."
Kitrina says, "Next year."
Kitrina grins.
Mestys says, "I missed the memo."
Kitrina says, "Yes, this year."
Limper clearly asks, "Any chance of being alowed to anchor at a place other than Voln or the Temple?"
Mestys says, "Those are the two main areas in the Landing, I believe."
Limper clearly asks, "Any chance to improve 1640..more benefits? Is 24 ranks of Control also needed to use this spell 100%?"
Mestys says, "There's always a chance, but nothing planned at the moment."
Mestys says, "As far as I know 24 ranks will result in complete success."
Limper clearly says, "Seems kinda costly for a level 40 spell."
Mestys asks, "Anything else?"
Limper clearly says, "When you add on the limited number of casts and exp cut."
Mestys asks, "Do you have any other clarifications that I can answer to factually?"
Limper clearly says, "Nope."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Limper sits back down.

Mestys says, "Annelie says, 'Would you consider capping the variable mana cost of Arm of The Arkati?'"
Mestys says, "This is a known issue. I will be bringing it up."
Mestys nods to Annelie, who stands up to address the assembly.
Annelie says, "Thank you."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Annelie sits back down.

Mestys says, "Rakryst says, 'Are the offensive spells infused into the bonded acting as a second flare? So is there a possibility a double flare of the Guiding Light flare and the infused spell acting simutaneously?'"
Mestys says, "Due to the way player enchants work, I'm not sure if the Guiding Light flares would be attained. We'll have to get back to you on that though. It will be sanctified, however."
Mestys nods to Rakryst, who stands up to address the assembly.
Rakryst says, "I do not have any more questions at the moment."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Rakryst sits back down.

Mestys says, "Hellin says, 'if a paladin will have diety specific opponents, or whatever that was that is supposed to be introduced soon'"
Mestys says, "I do not know the status on the deity-specific foes at this time."
Mestys nods to Hellin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kitrina says, "Deity specific foes is on the list of goals for this year."
Hellin innocently says, "Actually in regard to sanctify i have a question."
Mestys nods.
Hellin innocently says, "Does sanctify mean the weapon will not have to be blessed? we call the weapons of the cleric sanctified weapons, like the white ones and such."
Mestys says, "Both Clerics and Paladins currently receive the benefit of sanctified weapon."
Hellin innocently says, "No i mean when we cast sanctify."
Mestys says, "It will make the weapon sanctified, yes."
Hellin innocently says, "Oooh."
Mestys says, "It will only be useable by the Paladin caster, however."
Hellin innocently asks, "One more question?"
Mestys nods.
Hellin innocently asks, "Why is the sky blue, the snow white, and the dwarces 7?"
Mestys says, "Chemistry."
Hellin innocently says, "Sorry."
Mestys grins.
Mestys asks, "All est?"
Mestys says, "Set, even."
Hellin innocently says, "Thanks."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Hellin sits back down.

Mestys says, "Foxnor says, 'How can we make a good choice when all the cleric spells and paladin spells are not out. Is there a time set for when they will all be released?'"
Mestys says, "The Paladin spells will be out this month."
Mestys nods to Foxnor, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kitrina says, "You don't have to convert this month. You can convert at any time in the future. So don't feel obligated to make the choice right away."
Mestys nods to Kitrina.
Foxnor asks, "Ok how about the cleric spells?"
Mestys says, "I am not sure on the status of those at the moment."
Foxnor says, "I am just trying to get a play together and I am looking at the spells."
Kitrina says, "You can only make your decision based on what is available now. Otherwise, you have the option to wait."
Mestys says, "In your situation, you might wish to hold on for a bit."
Mestys nods.
Foxnor says, "Tis true I can wait."
Foxnor says, "Thank you."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Foxnor sits back down.

Mestys says, "Belnia says, 'will sanctify work for ranged weapons, and if so, how?'"
Mestys says, "The combat system checks the ammo when dealing with sanctified ranged attacks. I do not know for certain if ranged weapons will properly hold a Sanctify spell or not, but I would lean toward not."
Mestys nods to Belnia, who stands up to address the assembly.
Belnia asks, "And could you just reassure us all once again that Sanctify really is so incredibly wonderful, and turns almost any weapon into an Auction quality weapon?"
Kitrina chuckles.
Mestys says, "The attuned nature is what makes it possible."
Mestys nods.
Belnia says, "Thank you, now I want a nice spell like that in my circles."
Mestys grins.
Having finished addressing the assembly Belnia sits back down.

Mestys says, "Radaka says, 'so a paladin trained .75x spells will have a cs equiv. to a prof. thats designed to 1x in spells? stat bonus aside?'"
Mestys says, "Creature Paladin TDs are designed with a .75x spell-trained Paladin in mind."
Mestys nods to Radaka, who stands up to address the assembly.
Radaka says, "Ok so formula is the same."
Mestys nods.
Radaka says, "And CS will be lower than say a 1xd ranger."
Radaka asks, "But the TDs will be adjusted accordingly?"
Mestys says, "In all likelihood."
Mestys says, "Yes on the last bit."
Radaka says, "Ok."
Radaka says, "Sounds good."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Radaka sits back down.

Mestys says, "Dgry says, 'does compel them to cast it mean that it's automatic?'"
Mestys says, "Regarding spell-flaring, yes. Though it won't fire if you don't have the mana."
Mestys nods to Dgry, who stands up to address the assembly.
Dgry asks, "CT?"
Mestys says, "It would be concurrent with your RT."
Dgry asks, "Subject to hindrance?"
Mestys says, "No."
Dgry says, "Nice, whoever developed that spell needs props."
Mestys says, "Yes."
Dgry says, "I've a question I didn't get to ask in the first half, not sure it went through."
Mestys nods.
Dgry says, "Everyone stop whisperin to me, geez."
Dgry exclaims, "You're makin me ask already answered questions!"
Dgry asks, "Is appraise being looked at for 1640?"
Mestys says, "I'll have to bring it up to Warden."
Dgry says, "It'll be something the class needs if 1640 still works like it was originally going to, ie old 312."
Mestys nods.
Dgry says, "Otherwise you're just going to have a buncha spirit deathing paladins who retribute their raises."
Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you wish clarified?"
Dgry says, "Though that would amuse me."
Dgry says, "I'm checking my list, hang on."
Mestys chuckles.
Dgry says, "The bane/smite issue."
Dgry asks, "With the 1630, that mean "good" paladins suffer penalties on living?"
Mestys says, "Regarding 1630? I'm not sure on the details at this time."
Kitrina says, "I'll post the documentation when it is ready."
Kitrina nods.
Mestys nods to Kitrina.
Dgry says, "Ahh ok."
Dgry asks, "Is targgeted implode considered mass area still?"
Mestys says, "I don't know."
Kitrina says, "Given what it does, I'd say yes."
Dgry says, "I'm done then."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Dgry sits back down.

Mestys says, "Naivea says, 'Are there any additional bonuses to bond with a previously sanctified weapon, or all weapons treated the same?'"
Mestys says, "The only difference between a previously sanctified one and one more mundane is that Purify will not have to be cast at it prior to the bonding."
Mestys nods to Naivea, who stands up to address the assembly.
Naivea says, "I have one more question then."
Mestys nods to Naivea.
Naivea asks, "Are there any plans for rank 2 and 4 for sanctify?"
Naivea asks, "Or will they just be empty spots along bonding progression?"
Mestys says, "Other than the CML and stat bonus boosts, no."
Naivea says, "Err actually one more question as well then."
Mestys says, "All right."
Naivea asks, "After getting the last rank, will all ranks be active to be used at once?"
Naivea asks, "Or will we have to set it to certain levels like warrior weapon bonding?"
Mestys says, "The ranks are progressive. You keep the old benefits as you attain the new."
Naivea says, "Thanks, I am done."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Naivea sits back down.

Mestys says, "Kupoa says, 'With 1635: I assume it is an instant. Non-Failing cast, due to the 0 hindrence. As well, it will be able to cast numerous sessions in a row, or will there be a refreshing time from which we will have to wait to use it again?'"
Mestys says, "I believe certain conditions such as unconsciousness will not be BESEECHable."
Mestys nods to Kupoa, who stands up to address the assembly.
Mestys says, "I do not think there is a time limit."
Kupoa says, "Ok 3 more questions/comments if you will as well."
Mestys says, "Keep them quick."
Mestys grins.
Kupoa says, "Uno: Vohlin asked about spells earlier, just to extend on him..Web is a great one."
Kupoa says, "Two: The infused spells..They will be based off each correspponding spell circle as per which is infused."
Kupoa says, "IE: Paladin Spell Infuses when flared will use Paladin Spell CS, and Vice Versa for MNS."
Mestys says, "There will not be a CS boost."
Kupoa says, "I don't mean boost, I mean what base will the flare be off."
Mestys says, "It will not be as beneficial to infuse an elemental warding spell when the Paladin has little experience in the circle."
Kupoa asks, "Ok, but if I infuse Web, when activated it will use my minor spiritual CS?"
Mestys says, "Yes."
Kupoa asks, "Ok, last...When infusing a spell, there is 0 hindrence correct? And no RT?"
Kupoa says, "Also, I am the bestest...That is all."
Mestys says, "No hindrance, I believe there might be casting round time involved."
Mestys nods.
Kupoa says, "Nothing substantial I suppose."
Having finished addressing the assembly Kupoa sits back down.

Mestys says, "Bhuryn says, 'will there be any modifications to the CML costs for paladins'"
Mestys says, "The CML costs are pretty finalized at this point."
Mestys nods to Bhuryn, who stands up to address the assembly.
Bhuryn gravely says, "Can you clarify..Mestys says, "Due to the way player enchants work, I'm not sure if the Guiding Light flares would be attained."
Mestys says, "Sure... the way that a player-enchanted weapon is tracked, I don't know if it would interfere with the adding of Guiding Light flares or not."
Bhuryn gravely asks, "Thanks, last question, will sanctify make non-magical weapons magical?"
Mestys says, "I do not believe so, but I'm not certain."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Bhuryn sits back down.

Mestys says, "Greymalkyn says, 'does the bonding make it impossible for monsters to pick up the weapon after a disarm before it returns?'"
Mestys says, "I don't think so."
Mestys nods to Greymalkyn, who stands up to address the assembly.
Speaking to Greymalkyn, Mestys asks, "Is there anything else you'd like to add?"
Greymalkyn calmly says, "That is all."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Greymalkyn sits back down.

Mestys says, "Cydarin says, 'spell documentation does not list the amount of blessing lore needed to achieve the maximum return with 1607 (30 and 30 for 45 mana). Any chance you could clarify how much progress a rank of blessing lore provides?'"
Mestys ponders.
Kitrina says, "Math."
Mestys says, "If you are familiar with the summation number progression that Kitrina posted a while back, with that giant table..."
Kitrina says, "(that Mestys made for me)."
Mestys nods to Cydarin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Cydarin softly says, "Thanks for the direction."
Cydarin softly says, "Im good to go."
Mestys says, "It's similar to that, but in reverse."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Cydarin sits back down.

Mestys says, "Ganjyn says, 'is there any way for a cleric converting to paladin to keep their original stats without having to tweak them?'"
Mestys says, "When you convert, you have to set your base stats again."
Mestys says, "Landceal says, 'can a weapon with existing flares have an offensive spell infused in them? Also will I have to prep the infused spell to be able to infuse it?'"
Kitrina says, "You can type INFO START to see your base stats."
Mestys says, "I believe so, yes. As for infusing the spells, you don't have to PREPare it to do so. You can also invoke off scrolls."
Mestys nods to Landceal, who stands up to address the assembly.
Landceal darkly says, "2 more question please."
Mestys nods.
Landceal darkly says, "One will sanc have to be casted for earch rank achieved or just once."
Mestys says, "Just once."
Landceal darkly asks, "Two if i drop my bonded weapon and another picks it up will it leap back to my hands?"
Mestys says, "I'm not sure."
Landceal darkly says, "Is it subect to the janitor."
Mestys says, "Yes."
Landceal darkly says, "Ok thanks, thats it for me."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Landceal sits back down.

Mestys says, "Gorbund says, 'on regards to deities. Will we be able to gain special bonuses or abilities when we choose our deity? And is there acknowledgement for a Paladin to know his chosen'"
Mestys says, "There are no inherent bonuses to choosing one deity over another. Certain spells and other mechanics take them into account, however."
Mestys nods to Gorbund, who stands up to address the assembly.
Gorbund clearly asks, "Alright if there are no inherent bonuses then why choose a deity?"
Mestys says, "Roleplayer purposes, for the most part."
Mestys says, "Roleplaying, rather."
Mestys says, "Some spells message differently depending on the deity alignment of the caster."
Mestys says, "Some scripted items activate differently for some deity-aligned people than others."
Gorbund clearly says, "So for example lets us say the one chooses a dark deity like luukos ."
Gorbund clearly says, "We would not then be better apt to control dead ."
Mestys says, "That is correct."
Gorbund clearly says, "And as for the bonding I have one thing ."
Mestys nods.
Gorbund clearly says, "If it is bonded to rank 5 ."
Gorbund clearly says, "And it can return I would think that unless you are dead that it would return to you no matter who held it ."
Gorbund clearly says, "Isn't that the whole thing behind bonding with it anyway ."
Mestys says, "It may work that way. I have not tested that aspect recently."
Gorbund clearly says, "Thank you ."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Gorbund sits back down.

Kitrina says, "We'll do questions for 15 more minutes and then wrap it up. Any unanswered questions can be posted in the Paladin folder."

Mestys says, "Kediaq says, 'Related to the Patron's Blessing spell, are CMAN points actually gained for use in learning maneuvers while the spell is active? '"
Mestys says, "No. However, for all intents and purposes of CML offense and defense, they are there."
Mestys nods to Kediaq, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kediaq says, "Thanks, one more thing."
Kediaq asks, "What is the spirit loss for Paladin raises?"
Mestys nods.
Mestys says, "75% of the target's max."
Kediaq says, "Oh, and..."
Kediaq says, "I was in Teras when I came, and now I seem to be in the Landing when I leave."
Mestys says, "Ah, please do a report when you leave to get that taken care of."
Kediaq says, "I will."
Mestys asks, "Anything else?"
Kediaq says, "Nope."
Having finished addressing the assembly Kediaq sits back down.

Mestys says, "Hadya says, 'I know you plan to have warriors and clerics convert this year. Will there be another date, perhaps after all spells are released that you'll open conversion again?'"
Mestys says, "There are no plans to expand Paladin conversions to any other professions. If you are a Warrior or Cleric that wishes to convert, you can do so at any time after conversions are released this Friday."

Mestys says, "Arnakyl says, 'what happens if you lose a weapon via disarm or other means and it becomes lost. Ie it gets imploded while on the ground or something. Will the paladin immediately be able to rebond with a new weapon?'"
Mestys says, "If the weapon is completely lost, you will be able to bond with a new weapon, yes."
Mestys nods to Arnakyl, who stands up to address the assembly.
Arnakyl asks, "Immediately?"
Mestys nods.
Arnakyl says, "And if Hellin dies again, I won't complain."
Arnakyl says, "Stop whispering to me."
Mestys chuckles.
Mestys asks, "Is there anything else?"
Arnakyl says, "Done."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Arnakyl sits back down.

Mestys says, "Hellin says, 'how do we make an anchor?'"
Mestys says, "That is an in-game secret. I'm sure some of your peers would be willing to help you out, though."
Mestys nods to Hellin, who stands up to address the assembly.
Hellin innocently asks, "What about giftbox items, will they switch to a paladin giftbox item, or will they still work as usual or do we lose all attributes?"
Mestys says, "The benefits are restricted to class, and will not provide any further benefit once you convert."
Hellin innocently says, "Oh one more thing..."
Hellin innocently asks, "Does that mean my application to the cheerleading has been denied?"
Mestys says, "I believe so."
Kitrina says, "You don't have the stuff."
Kitrina shakes her head.
Hellin innocently says, "Oh well."
Mestys grins.
Having finished addressing the assembly Hellin sits back down.

Mestys says, "Anshef says, 'will living spell work with Sanctify?'"
Mestys says, "No. It is purely a Paladin-based spell."
Mestys nods to Anshef, who stands up to address the assembly.
Anshef says, "Thanks."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Anshef sits back down.

Mestys says, "Radaka says, 'double checking, say i sanctify a weapon, with crit weighting, then later choose to channel it and sanctify a different weapon. will the first be attuned to me still? with or without the weighting? '"
Mestys says, "It will no longer be attuned if you CHANNEL to break the bond. It will keep its original attributes."
Mestys nods to Radaka, who stands up to address the assembly.
Radaka says, "Ok so it will completely go back to the way it was."
Radaka asks, "Correct?"
Mestys nods.
Radaka says, "Perfect."
Radaka says, "Thank you."
Having finished addressing the assembly Radaka sits back down.

Mestys says, "Xealot says, 'mesy Will guiding light be re-adjusted to a normal flare rate like e-blade, or is it going to stay at the same flare rate as holy water from a clerics bless?'"
Mestys says, "I believe there will be a double flare chance introduced whenever that is approved and cleared."
Mestys nods to Xealot, who stands up to address the assembly.
Xealot says, "Sounds good."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Xealot sits back down.

Mestys says, "Limper says, 'a sanctified weapon that is bonded to the paladin will only be able to be held by the paladin? If a critter picks it up, will there be any ill effects that cause it to be dropped?'"
Mestys says, "A weapon sanctified via 1625 will be restricted to the Paladin. There should be no ill-effects if a creature were able to use it against you."
Mestys nods to Limper, who stands up to address the assembly.
Limper clearly asks, "So the infused spell will go off randomly, or we'll be able to make a conscience decision to activate it?"
Mestys says, "Randomly."
Limper clearly says, "All done."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Limper sits back down.

Kitrina says, "One more question."

Mestys closes the question box.
Mestys says, "Kyntair says, 'when we bond with our weapon through the spell sanctify, will we get the extra ranks in it through our spells, or through use like warrior bonding is? and will the mechanics be similar to warrior bonding overall?'"
Mestys says, "Spell ranks will unlock the possibilities of the higher special attributes. Use of the weapon will yield the function."
Mestys nods to Kyntair, who stands up to address the assembly.
Kyntair warmly says, "I am hoping it is like warrior's weapon bonding...their weapons wrench out of a player/critter's hands and return to them."
Mestys nods.
Kyntair warmly says, "I found that out the hard way."
Kyntair warmly says, "That is all for me."
Mestys nods.
Having finished addressing the assembly Kyntair sits back down.

Mestys says, "I believe we'll stop there for tonight."
Mestys smiles.
Mestys says, "I apologize if I did not get to your question. Please feel free to ask them on the boards and we'll try to field them there."
Kitrina exclaims, "Thank you all very much for coming!"
Mestys opens the floor back up for general discussion.
Mestys says, "Have a good night, everyone."

Speaking to Kitrina, Kupoa asks, "Which one of you will be at St Louis this year?"
Kitrina suddenly fades out of sight.
Mestys says, "I plan on being there."
Mestys grins.
Kupoa nods to Mestys.
Mestys nods.
Kupoa says, "I'll try my hardest to get there."
Kupoa grins.
The voice of Kitrina says, "Me too."

Ezana says, "Metys, how can i find out more information about the conversion."
Mestys says, "There is an announcement post on the boards."
Ezana nods to Mestys.
The voice of Kitrina says, "NEWS 3 1."
Mestys says, "That too."

Rakryst asks, "Is there any discussion for the paladin guild on the forum?"
Kupoa says, "No Rak, the guild is far far away I assume."
Mestys says, "There are no Guild plans at the moment, but I'm always listening for proposals."

Palaides says, "Ya know.."
Palaides says, "Something made me thing with the choosing a dieity."
Palaides says, "If you pick Zelia or Gosana however she's pronounced."
Palaides says, "They are considered the two neutrals."
Palaides asks, "So how does that affect stuff?"
Rakryst nods to Palaides.
Mestys says, "Pantheon-wise, they are, yes."
Palaides says, "Ok but in the realm of spells clerical and I spose paladin how does it react."
Mestys says, "At this time, there isn't a difference when it comes to Paladins."
Mestys says, "For Clerics, the difference between Bane and Smite is dilineated by the top half and bottom half of the list when you check CONVERT LIST."
Palaides says, "Hmm."
Palaides says, "So zelia is on the uppper gosaena lower."
Mestys nods.
Palaides says, "Hell Zelia is just a loon ."
Palaides snickers.
Mestys chuckles.

Mestys says, "That'll do it for me, I believe. Have a nice night."
Mestys smiles.
Mestys bows.
Mestys suddenly fades out of sight.



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